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 Post subject: Re: Michael Jackson.
PostPosted: 01 Jul 2009, 18:21 
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I think you summed that up perfectly Kerry! :) It's good that we can have these interesting discussions on here, it would baffle me if there weren't conflicting views on this subject! :D


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 Post subject: Re: Michael Jackson.
PostPosted: 06 Jul 2009, 16:08 
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Just downloaded a beautiful song from Michael Jackson, called "She's out of my Life" :) I read about it in the Arts section of the Daily Telegraph on Saturday, under the heading "My top 10 Michael Jackson songs" by Neil McCormick. :)

Must admit I did'nt realise how many lovely songs he had recorded - probably in the early days. This one was from "Off the Wall" 1979. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Michael Jackson.
PostPosted: 12 Jul 2009, 15:48 
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I was shocked when I heard about the news of Michael Jackson. Personally, I think it is sad when anyone dies, whether I like them or not. (I wasn't a fan of Jade Goody, for example, far from it, but I still felt sad that she had died.) I wasn't a huge Michael Jackson fan either but I do think that his album 'Thriller' was exceptional and will stand the test of time. I just felt sorry about what he became subsequently. I agree with Martin that the sense of loss is partly generational (think I might have invented that word!). Scott and Ant - you grew up with him - he was to you possibly what John Lennon was to me. I was devastated when Lennon died- the main reason why was not because I'd lost one of my teen idols but because at the time of his death he had just brought out the most amazingly beautiful album with Yoko Ono, proving that he was still a genius and could still write beautiful and moving songs like 'Woman'. I think it was that that caused more of a sense of loss then anything. The loss of what might have been.


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 Post subject: Re: Michael Jackson.
PostPosted: 13 Jul 2009, 08:23 
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Weirdly I only just came across this thread - don't ask me how it took so long, I really don't know! I've got to admit I loved his music - I've still got Bad on tape somewhere :oops: but for some reason I didn't feel sad, wasn't really bothered. How harsh does that sound? Wrong choice of words maybe but I can't really describe what I mean y'know? Like his music was definitely a part of my childhood - I'll still happily sing along now (badly) but I guess I figured that music's always there regardless of whether MJ is - does that make any sense whatsoever??

I recall being a bit gutted when Kurt Cobain died but that may well have been me jumping on the bandwagon, I'm not sure. But the one thing that really got to me was when I was about 14 & we had to do a project at school about someone we admired. I'd been listening to Mum's Abbey Road record for ages & realised I knew absolutely nothing about The Beatles - I mean NOTHING! I was mortified when I got some books from the library & found out John Lennon had died before I was even born!!! I mean, it really got to me - strange.

So I totally appreciate how gutted people are about MJ but I'm happy in the knowledge that his music, without sounding completely corny(!), will be around for generations to come

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 Post subject: Re: Michael Jackson.
PostPosted: 13 Jul 2009, 13:07 
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I mentioned earlier in this thread that I spent the Saturday after MJ's death with my friend. Recently she's posted a blog about the whole thing and I've asked her if I can post it here. I think she writes so much better than I do, and thought you might be interested in reading it.

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On the day of Michael Jackson’s burial and memorial service I find myself finally having thought through my feelings on the whole affair. I have to admit, I haven’t been watching the drama unfold since that fateful day 2 weeks ago when it was announced that the legendary King Of Pop had passed away suddenly. For many who had him as part of their life and musical history that was probably the day the music died. Of course, that is said of every high profile musician’s death. They said it when Lennon was killed and when Elvis died.

I’d wager that with the ease of access to information and the amount of access to the rest of the world there probably hasn’t been an outpouring of emotion quite like we’ve experienced with Michael Jackson. Not because he was any more or less of a legend than Elvis or Lennon, but because times have changed. With the advent of 24 hour news and the internet – where information is available at the touch of a button, anybody is able to publish their own take on it, and we are no longer slaves to handwritten word – we are struck by the immediacy of “as it happens” reporting. Gone are the days when it would take several days for all the facts to come out and the slow ripple effect as newspapers gather the data. Within hours of initial reports the world was in mourning.

Of course I was sad and numb for a while at the news of the passing of Michael Jackson. He was a large part of my musical history being my first conscious musical decision and one of a few that have been a constant during my “music loving” years, but what struck me most wasn’t the fact that he died, or even how he died, but one photograph on the front of a gossip magazine. One photo of a man being wheeled out on a gurney wearing an oxygen mask as they tried to save his life and a photo which I have utter contempt for the piece of scum that took it. That man was Michael Jackson, and that was not the way I wanted to remember the legend. Unfortunately, despite the various tributes paid to MJ over the past couple of weeks that image has stuck with me. I’m sure it will stick with me for a while to come as it is reminiscent of something I experienced personally some years back with my Dad, and has, for the longest time, been the only image of my dear departed dad that I have been able to remember. Even as I type this I can see my Dad suffering the same way I’m sure MJ did. For my sins though, my memory is only in my head. MJ’s children and family have now had that image splashed on magazines the world over and it will not be as easily forgotten. Memories do fade, especially the bad ones, but an image in print like that is not as easily discarded.

Something else that bothers me about the death of MJ, is the circus that seems to have followed it. When I heard about the memorial for MJ, I began thinking that sounded like a lovely idea. When I discovered the ticket lottery for it I thought that was a little distasteful – they are, in essence, tickets for a funeral, but when I read today about the star studded “gala” that the memorial is slated to be (celebrity guests including Mariah Carey, Stevie Wonder, Kobe Bryant, Magic Johnson that I can recall as I type) I found myself absolutely shocked. Yes, tradition dictates that a wake is in order after a funeral – a way to honour the life of the dearly departed, but when a round of celebrities decide to partake in something that can be nothing but good publicity for them and their career I start to wonder about their true motives. Do they truly intend to honour the life of a musical legend or to get a leg up in their own career and garner extra publicity that they are lacking??

Maybe I’m just getting cynical in my old age but one of my online friends said it best about a week ago, mainly in reference to how a few of MJ’s own family members referred to him. We all know he was the King Of Pop, and those who knew him only as a superstar will, 90% of the time, refer to him as such. But when MJ’s own family members refer to him firstly as the King Of Pop and secondly as their brother/son etc it puts a whole new perspective on the way MJ was treated whilst he was alive. We have been told a lot in the past about MJ’s early life and career and how he was allegedly abused and no doubt turned into a money making machine by his own father, but I would expect that, despite all that, the emphasis, from the Jacksons at least should have been on family before fame. Please don't take this as an attack on Michael's family, for right now they are in pain over the loss of a cherished family member.

I will miss MJ and his contributions to the music world. Despite his problems and issues over the years there’s no denying that he was a genius and has the right to be remembered as such. Unfortunately, I strongly believe that for every person willing to remember MJ as such, there will be several more who will focus on his “freakishness”, rumour and legal problems. I read earlier on my Facebook feeds page, the friend of a friend relaying how amongst the floral tributes laid throughout Los Angeles for the legend there sat one in very bad taste given the current circumstances, making references to the paedophilia accusations of several years ago. I just hope that in death he can find the peace that was so sorely lacking while he was alive.

RIP Michael Jackson

by Hannah Donnelly

http://iwishthatlifewaslikeitisinthemov ... gspot.com/

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 Post subject: Re: Michael Jackson.
PostPosted: 14 Jul 2009, 19:43 
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Kerry, tell Hannah I said WOW! That girl really CAN write!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Michael Jackson.
PostPosted: 18 Jul 2009, 11:27 
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Bird wrote:
Kerry, tell Hannah I said WOW! That girl really CAN write!!!!

Will do, have done...and she says thank you very much! :)

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